it’s not a conversation anymore, it’s a pitch

In evangelism, Film, Gospel, Religion on March 14, 2007 by Eliacín

It doesn’t matter whether you’re selling Jesus or Buddha or civil rights or ‘How to Make Money in Real Estate With No Money Down.’ That doesn’t make you a human being; it makes you a marketing rep. If you want to talk to somebody honestly, as a human being, ask him about his kids. Find out what his dreams are – just to find out, for no other reason. Because as soon as you lay your hands on a conversation to steer it, it’s not a conversation anymore; it’s a pitch. And you’re not a human being; you’re a marketing rep.

Line from the film – The Big Kahuna


7 Responses to “it’s not a conversation anymore, it’s a pitch”

  1. There is a place for both kinds of conversation. There is purposeful conversation, which is not always a marketing pitch–indeed, without opinions and ideas working against other opinions and ideas, we’d still be living in a society much less advanced (technologically speaking, as this is an emotionally and spiritually primitive species). However, conversing in order to learn and extract information also has its place in developing relationships.

    There is a difference between purposeful conversation and a marketing pitch, but I think the screenwriter of this film failed to recognize it. Steering a conversation is not the same as selling a product (non-tangible or tangible).

  2. I guess the question we should ask ourselves is: how did Jesus witness? I think we should find out what he did, and do our best to copy him.

    There were a lot of people that sought Jesus out, but one example of how Jesus witnessed is to the woman at the well (John 4). He talked to her for a little while, but he really didn’t beat around the bush too much.

    Everyone is going to die, and to withhold the cure for death isn’t loving. If you want to call me a salesman, I don’t really care. I just care about where people spend eternity, and about being obedient to the Great Commission.


  3. Hi Bill,

    First of all thank you for visiting and leaving a comment on my blog. I visited yours and saw your interest and passion for evangelism. I hope that you spent some time reading around my blog, checking my about page, following links etc… That would show that the reason you left a blog is because you care and not because you want to engage in a polemic conversation.

    As a former evangelical missionary (for 10 years), i commend you for your interest in the spiritual well being of others.

    I believe that there are different definitions of what it means to be a Christians and how that is lived in the world. I now mine is not complete, as I am certain yours is not either. Still we can learn from each other.

    I hope the way you engage others in evangelism is because you care (I do not know you, but I like to think that you are a caring believer.) I speak out of experience on how life crushing it is to practice evangelism out of guilt or just because we are seeking some sort of spiritual version of brownie points.

    I wish you would have shown more of your interest in me when you wrote your comment on my blog. You wrote it to defend your point, without even caring to hear my side, I hope that is not the way you engage in evangelism.

    I believe that Jesus didn’t beat around the bushes with the woman at the well, because as the incarnate God, he knew her even better than she knew herself. There was nothing he needed to learn that he didn’t knew already. But it is not the same with us and our evangelism tricks. The main reason we share God’s good news is because we care and love. And in order to love and care, we need to listen, be present and pay attention, sit, drink and eat with sinners as was one of the activities Jesus was known for. We speak, yes, but we listen more.

    Brother, I hope you take this with a good heart.

    May the Peace of the Lord be with you.

  4. Eliacin,

    You’re right. I didn’t look around your blog to find out more about you.

    The quote from the movie is a little bit offensive, (if I actually cared about what some movie says). “It doesn’t matter whether you’re selling Jesus or Buddha…That doesn’t make you a human being; it makes you a marketing rep.”

    Do you agree that if I steer a conversation toward Jesus, I’m no longer human?


  5. […] Line from the film – The Big Kahuna (HT:eliacin) […]

  6. “The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation” according to the 1st chapter in Romans. If you believe that (I do with all my heart since it’s power changed me) then you don’t think you are selling, you think you are uttering the power of God to save into someone’s life. Then that power will work to save or condemn. It certainly isn’t up to my salesman ship (praise be to Jesus!)

    Galatians 1:9
    As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

    There is only one Gospel and we are called to be all things to all peopel in order to sell it in Corinthians 9.

    Jesus sent His guys out in pairs to go door to door. That sounds like salesmen to me. He also said if they don’t repent and except the gospel to dust their feet off and move on.

  7. Wierd! I came to your site through Coops site who posted on my blog! So he posted on my blog in Shoreline,WA and then you posted on his blog in Sydney after he track backed from your blog in Seattle and now I’m back in Seattle. What a small blog world it is. 🙂

    If you get a chance I’d encourage you to check ou the drawings/ paintings a woman did at one of our services yesterday in response to the sermon on Nehemiah 4.

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